Talk:Follower tutorial - Revision history

Proleric1: /* Handling followers more robustly */

2011-07-21T18:08:38Z

‎Handling followers more robustly

Proleric1: /* Handling followers more robustly */

2011-02-07T06:16:06Z

‎Handling followers more robustly

Gaxkang55: /* Handling followers more robustly */

2011-01-10T08:19:53Z

‎Handling followers more robustly

Proleric1: /* Handling followers more robustly */

2011-01-08T12:06:32Z

‎Handling followers more robustly

Gaxkang55: /* Handling followers more robustly */

2011-01-08T04:10:02Z

‎Handling followers more robustly

Proleric1: /* Dog equipment slots */

2011-01-02T10:12:07Z

‎Dog equipment slots

FollowTheGourd at 18:01, 1 January 2011

2011-01-01T18:01:05Z

FollowTheGourd: /* Handling followers more robustly */

2011-01-01T17:53:38Z

‎Handling followers more robustly

FollowTheGourd at 17:52, 1 January 2011

2011-01-01T17:52:56Z

Gaxkang55: /* Dog equipment slots */ new section

2010-10-21T09:38:17Z

‎Dog equipment slots: new section

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 Just to say I haven't forgotten about this. Too many distractions recently! Will launch the redraft discussion shortly. [[User:Proleric1|Proleric1]] 06:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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 Would be happy to be part of the discussion. Perhaps FollowTheGourd might join the party as well :-) --[[User:Gaxkang55|Gaxkang55]] 08:19, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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 --[[User:FollowTheGourd|FollowTheGourd]] 17:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
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 As the author of the "alternative approach" section, my own view is that this should effectively replace that whole section with the monstrous hire script, which really belongs in a how-I-did-it page rather than in a tutorial. However, I am currently up to my armpits in work on my own mod and just don't  currently have the bandwidth to undertake the redraft. --[[User:Gaxkang55|Gaxkang55]] 04:10, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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 I have some sympathy with that. Indeed, I suspect that most of the additions could be integrated into one "best practice" approach. However, I hesitate to carve this up without some informed debate. I'll volunteer to redraft if a few people are willing to join a group discussion first. [[User:Proleric1|Proleric1]] 12:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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	As the author of the "alternative approach" section, my own view is that this should effectively replace that whole section with the monstrous hire script, which really belongs in a how-I-did-it page rather than in a tutorial. However, I am currently up to my armpits in work on my own mod and just don't currently have the bandwidth to undertake the redraft. --[[User:Gaxkang55\|Gaxkang55]] 04:10, 8 January 2011 (UTC)		As the author of the "alternative approach" section, my own view is that this should effectively replace that whole section with the monstrous hire script, which really belongs in a how-I-did-it page rather than in a tutorial. However, I am currently up to my armpits in work on my own mod and just don't currently have the bandwidth to undertake the redraft. --[[User:Gaxkang55\|Gaxkang55]] 04:10, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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		+	I have some sympathy with that. Indeed, I suspect that most of the additions could be integrated into one "best practice" approach. However, I hesitate to carve this up without some informed debate. I'll volunteer to redraft if a few people are willing to join a group discussion first. [[User:Proleric1\|Proleric1]] 12:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

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		+	As the author of the "alternative approach" section, my own view is that this should effectively replace that whole section with the monstrous hire script, which really belongs in a how-I-did-it page rather than in a tutorial. However, I am currently up to my armpits in work on my own mod and just don't currently have the bandwidth to undertake the redraft. --[[User:Gaxkang55\|Gaxkang55]] 04:10, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

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	Mention should be made of the fact that a dog follower needs to have the appropriate equipment slot mask. I will make the addition to the text if no-one has any objections/suggestions in a couple of days. --[[User:Gaxkang55\|Gaxkang55]] 09:38, 21 October 2010 (UTC)		Mention should be made of the fact that a dog follower needs to have the appropriate equipment slot mask. I will make the addition to the text if no-one has any objections/suggestions in a couple of days. --[[User:Gaxkang55\|Gaxkang55]] 09:38, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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		+	I don't think that happened, so I've done it now. [[User:Proleric1\|Proleric1]] 10:12, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

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 Just a few things
-* I don't think the described behaviour is a bug in [[UT_HireFollower]](). It's documented that "This function will do nothing for plot followers". It was never intended for use with normal followers, and the code even checks the object tag against the single player campaign's companions. It'll fail to check against your own module's custom followers, though, so it'll do something, but that something isn't what you want either.
+* I don't think the described behaviour is a bug in [[UT_HireFollower]](). It's documented that "This function will do nothing for plot followers". It was never intended for use with normal followers, and the code even checks the object tag against the single player campaign's companions. It'll fail to check against your own module's custom followers, though, so it'll do something, but that something isn't always what you want either.
 * Plot script gen00pt_party.nss and party_h have some plot-companion handling functions. I wouldn't really give it a short treatment at the bottom under "Advanced Follower Creation" if it's a solid approach. See things like Party_GetFollowerByTag in party_h with an interesting function and comment:

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		+	== Handling followers more robustly ==
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		+	Just a few things
		+	* I don't think the described behaviour is a bug in [[UT_HireFollower]](). It's documented that ''This function will do nothing for plot followers'. It was never intended for use with normal followers, and the code even checks the object tag against the single player campaign's companions. It'll fail to check against your own module's custom followers, though, so it'll do something, but that something isn't what you want either.
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		+	* Plot script gen00pt_party.nss and party_h have some plot-companion handling functions. I wouldn't really give it a short treatment at the bottom under "Advanced Follower Creation" if it's a solid approach. See things like Party_GetFollowerByTag in party_h with an interesting function and comment:
		+	<dascript>
		+	object Party_GetFollowerByTag(string sTag)
		+	{
		+	// We have to retrieve the follower like this. Trying to do it with
		+	// GetObjectByTag proved to mess up lots of stuff. -- yaron.
		+	object [] arParty = GetPartyPoolList();
		+	int i;
		+	int nSize = GetArraySize(arParty);
		+	object oCurrent;
		+	for(i = 0; i < nSize; i++)
		+	{
		+	oCurrent = arParty[i];
		+	if(GetTag(oCurrent) == sTag)
		+	return oCurrent;
		+	}
		+
		+	return UT_GetNearestObjectByTag(GetMainControlled(), sTag, TRUE);
		+	</dascript>
		+
		+	* It's probably worth going through those scripts and adapting them for general tutorial use. That way we can benefit from whatever gotchas have already been solved.
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		+	--[[User:FollowTheGourd\|FollowTheGourd]] 17:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
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		+	== ==
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	great tutorial. my only problem is: my companion, Erik has different skills and doesn't seem to follow his autolevel template. --[[User:Mono0x32440\|Mono0x32440]] 17:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC)		great tutorial. my only problem is: my companion, Erik has different skills and doesn't seem to follow his autolevel template. --[[User:Mono0x32440\|Mono0x32440]] 17:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

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	I cannot figure out how to change the default grey backgrounded portrait for the new followers. It would be nice to have pose and background options.		I cannot figure out how to change the default grey backgrounded portrait for the new followers. It would be nice to have pose and background options.
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		+	== Dog equipment slots ==
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		+	Mention should be made of the fact that a dog follower needs to have the appropriate equipment slot mask. I will make the addition to the text if no-one has any objections/suggestions in a couple of days. --[[User:Gaxkang55\|Gaxkang55]] 09:38, 21 October 2010 (UTC)