Talk:2DA ranges in use - Revision history

FollowTheGourd at 03:04, 3 December 2010

2010-12-03T03:04:46Z

Proleric1 at 10:01, 2 December 2010

2010-12-02T10:01:59Z

FollowTheGourd at 02:41, 2 December 2010

2010-12-02T02:41:43Z

Proleric1 at 07:00, 30 November 2010

2010-11-30T07:00:39Z

FollowTheGourd at 07:52, 29 November 2010

2010-11-29T07:52:20Z

FollowTheGourd at 02:38, 9 April 2010

2010-04-09T02:38:04Z

FollowTheGourd at 02:37, 9 April 2010

2010-04-09T02:37:49Z

Nezroy: variant id ranges?

2010-02-25T10:28:59Z

variant id ranges?

BryanDerksen: all of this stuff either already is or should be over on the main page. Moving and removing.

2010-02-16T17:18:11Z

all of this stuff either already is or should be over on the main page. Moving and removing.

FollowTheGourd: ABI_base range seems somewhat limited by practical concerns

2010-02-16T01:56:27Z

ABI_base range seems somewhat limited by practical concerns

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 ::But if they don't care about compatibility, couldn't conflicts still happen either way? I guess the one advantage of still having a unique range for a standalone module is if others unnecessarily put their GDAs into core. --[[User:FollowTheGourd|FollowTheGourd]] 02:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 :::You're right, we can't be certain of achieving compatibility. However, using a unique range for the module tends to reduce the probability of conflict (especially if it's a very large number c.f. string id). Assigning the same range to all standalone modules strikes me as especially risky, because it only takes one to put its M2DA in packages override to corrupt them all. What do you think? [[User:Proleric1|Proleric1]] 10:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
+::::Yeah, I see your point there - not just an issue of conflicting with one mod but with all that tried to be compatible by using the smaller, less random, reserved range. --[[User:FollowTheGourd|FollowTheGourd]] 03:04, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 Are we not bothering with reserving variant ranges until the >255 bug is fixed? Or should we start a land grab for this valuable space? I've been using variant IDs of 137-140 in my current stuff. [[User:Nezroy|Nezroy]] 10:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 :I don't think it would hurt to still mention what you're using... I guess we'll run out of space at which point it'll probably be a good way to pick and choose who you want to be incompatible with. [[User:FollowTheGourd|FollowTheGourd]] 02:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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 :As a temporary expedient, the reserved range for all standalone campaigns is sensible, but maybe campaigns should claim unique ranges, too, in case the bug is fixed one day. Conflict between standalone campaigns can and will occur unless compatibility guidelines are followed by everyone (and that's not going to happen IMO). [[User:Proleric1|Proleric1]] 07:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::But if they don't care about compatibility, couldn't conflicts still happen either way? I guess the one advantage of still having a unique range for a standalone module is if others unnecessarily put their GDAs into core. --[[User:FollowTheGourd|FollowTheGourd]] 02:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 Are we not bothering with reserving variant ranges until the >255 bug is fixed? Or should we start a land grab for this valuable space? I've been using variant IDs of 137-140 in my current stuff. [[User:Nezroy|Nezroy]] 10:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 :I don't think it would hurt to still mention what you're using... I guess we'll run out of space at which point it'll probably be a good way to pick and choose who you want to be incompatible with. [[User:FollowTheGourd|FollowTheGourd]] 02:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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 placeable_types is apparently restricted to 65535 entries, but even if that's enough, it might make some sense to reserve a range for all standalone modules, which don't need to worry about conflicting with each other. I can verify myself that they work in the addin's module directory. --[[User:FollowTheGourd|FollowTheGourd]] 07:52, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 :As a temporary expedient, the reserved range for all standalone campaigns is sensible, but maybe campaigns should claim unique ranges, too, in case the bug is fixed one day. Conflict between standalone campaigns can and will occur unless compatibility guidelines are followed by everyone (and that's not going to happen IMO). [[User:Proleric1|Proleric1]] 07:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 Are we not bothering with reserving variant ranges until the >255 bug is fixed? Or should we start a land grab for this valuable space? I've been using variant IDs of 137-140 in my current stuff. [[User:Nezroy|Nezroy]] 10:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 :I don't think it would hurt to still mention what you're using... I guess we'll run out of space at which point it'll probably be a good way to pick and choose who you want to be incompatible with. [[User:FollowTheGourd|FollowTheGourd]] 02:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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 placeable_types is apparently restricted to 65535 entries, but even if that's enough, it might make some sense to reserve a range for all standalone modules, which don't need to worry about conflicting with each other. I can verify myself that they work in the addin's module directory. --[[User:FollowTheGourd|FollowTheGourd]] 07:52, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 Are we not bothering with reserving variant ranges until the >255 bug is fixed? Or should we start a land grab for this valuable space? I've been using variant IDs of 137-140 in my current stuff. [[User:Nezroy|Nezroy]] 10:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 :I don't think it would hurt to still mention what you're using... I guess we'll run out of space at which point it'll probably be a good way to pick and choose who you want to be incompatible with. [[User:FollowTheGourd|FollowTheGourd]] 02:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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		+	placeable_types is apparently restricted to 65535 entries, but even if that's enough, it might make some sense to reserve a range for all standalone modules, which don't need to worry about conflicting with each other. I can verify myself that they work in the addin's module directory. --[[User:FollowTheGourd\|FollowTheGourd]] 07:52, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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	Are we not bothering with reserving variant ranges until the >255 bug is fixed? Or should we start a land grab for this valuable space? I've been using variant IDs of 137-140 in my current stuff. [[User:Nezroy\|Nezroy]] 10:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)		Are we not bothering with reserving variant ranges until the >255 bug is fixed? Or should we start a land grab for this valuable space? I've been using variant IDs of 137-140 in my current stuff. [[User:Nezroy\|Nezroy]] 10:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
	:I don't think it would hurt to still mention what you're using... I guess we'll run out of space at which point it'll probably be a good way to pick and choose who you want to be incompatible with. [[User:FollowTheGourd\|FollowTheGourd]] 02:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)		:I don't think it would hurt to still mention what you're using... I guess we'll run out of space at which point it'll probably be a good way to pick and choose who you want to be incompatible with. [[User:FollowTheGourd\|FollowTheGourd]] 02:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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	Are we not bothering with reserving variant ranges until the >255 bug is fixed? Or should we start a land grab for this valuable space? I've been using variant IDs of 137-140 in my current stuff. [[User:Nezroy\|Nezroy]] 10:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)		Are we not bothering with reserving variant ranges until the >255 bug is fixed? Or should we start a land grab for this valuable space? I've been using variant IDs of 137-140 in my current stuff. [[User:Nezroy\|Nezroy]] 10:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
−	:I don't think it would hurt to still mention what you're using... I guess we'll run out of space at which point it'll probably be a good way to pick and choose who you want to be incompatible with.	+	:I don't think it would hurt to still mention what you're using... I guess we'll run out of space at which point it'll probably be a good way to pick and choose who you want to be incompatible with. [[User:FollowTheGourd\|FollowTheGourd]] 02:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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	Are we not bothering with reserving variant ranges until the >255 bug is fixed? Or should we start a land grab for this valuable space? I've been using variant IDs of 137-140 in my current stuff. [[User:Nezroy\|Nezroy]] 10:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)		Are we not bothering with reserving variant ranges until the >255 bug is fixed? Or should we start a land grab for this valuable space? I've been using variant IDs of 137-140 in my current stuff. [[User:Nezroy\|Nezroy]] 10:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
		+	:I don't think it would hurt to still mention what you're using... I guess we'll run out of space at which point it'll probably be a good way to pick and choose who you want to be incompatible with.

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−	~~== Limited ABI_base range ==~~
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−	~~According to the [[ABI_base]] page under the ''tooltipstrref'' column, anything over 500000 is considered a debuff. This would limit the range a fair amount.~~
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−	~~== Ranges to merge into the main table (if not already) ==~~
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−	~~M2DA not listed in the page, so adding my used range here:~~
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−	~~== itemprps ==~~
−	~~{\| class="wikitable" border="1"~~
−	\|-
−	~~\| 536873321 - 536873322~~
−	~~\| Elys' [http://social.bioware.com/project/522/ Mysterious Gifts]~~
−	\|}
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−	~~== materialrules ==~~
−	~~{\| class="wikitable" border="1"~~
−	\|-
−	~~\| 536873321 - 536873323~~
−	~~\| Elys' [http://social.bioware.com/project/522/ Mysterious Gifts]~~
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		+	== Limited ABI_base range ==
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		+	According to the [[ABI_base]] page under the ''tooltipstrref'' column, anything over 500000 is considered a debuff. This would limit the range a fair amount.
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		+	== Ranges to merge into the main table (if not already) ==
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	M2DA not listed in the page, so adding my used range here:		M2DA not listed in the page, so adding my used range here: